Comments on: The Lucien Gaudin Cocktail https://cold-glass.com/2014/12/05/the-lucien-gaudin-cocktail/ You can make these cocktails. Start right now. Mon, 19 Apr 2021 21:19:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Doug Ford https://cold-glass.com/2014/12/05/the-lucien-gaudin-cocktail/#comment-211429 Mon, 19 Apr 2021 21:19:36 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=16648#comment-211429 In reply to Rok.

Rok, that’s uplifting news, thanks for letting me know, and thanks for reading Cold Glass.

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By: Rok https://cold-glass.com/2014/12/05/the-lucien-gaudin-cocktail/#comment-211427 Mon, 19 Apr 2021 21:02:30 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=16648#comment-211427 It makes my wife happy every time I mix it. She is devoted Negroni aficionado but always keen to try Negroni riffs. We both enjoy your blog, thank you for all investigations and suggestions

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By: Doug Ford https://cold-glass.com/2014/12/05/the-lucien-gaudin-cocktail/#comment-106897 Sun, 03 Jan 2016 22:26:47 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=16648#comment-106897 In reply to cpencis.

That sounds like a brilliant substitution, and I’m glad it worked out. It looks like the Cocchi Americano would add back a bit of the “edge” that’s lost moving from Campari to Aperol. Great idea, and I’ll remember it in the future. Thanks!

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By: cpencis https://cold-glass.com/2014/12/05/the-lucien-gaudin-cocktail/#comment-106662 Thu, 24 Dec 2015 02:28:14 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=16648#comment-106662 I just took a stab at this but didn’t have Campari so I had to reach for aparol and so instead of dry vermouth I swapped it out for Cocchi Americano. I think what resulted was lovely nonetheless. Thanks again Doug!

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By: Doug Ford https://cold-glass.com/2014/12/05/the-lucien-gaudin-cocktail/#comment-92897 Tue, 09 Dec 2014 15:43:38 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=16648#comment-92897 In reply to Michael Bounds.

Pamplemousse. The French have such excellent words, and that one is an order of magnitude more fun to say than “grapefruit.”

Anyway, Combier doesn’t seem to distribute their products in my region. I’ve read good reports about the curacao you mention, but I had never even heard of their Crème de Pamplemousse Rose. It’s an intriguing idea for a product; I hope I get to try it someday. Perhaps in a Belfast Bastard, that would be nice.

I’d like to think that Charlie met Gaudin one day, perhaps served him a cocktail; you’re right, we can’t know.

Thanks for bringing the word “Pamplemousse” to Cold Glass.

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By: Doug Ford https://cold-glass.com/2014/12/05/the-lucien-gaudin-cocktail/#comment-92843 Mon, 08 Dec 2014 21:22:22 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=16648#comment-92843 In reply to Randi and Eric’s Honeymoon.

Lots more holiday meals to come, I’ll definitely keep it in mind. Thanks for the idea!

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By: Michael Bounds https://cold-glass.com/2014/12/05/the-lucien-gaudin-cocktail/#comment-92838 Mon, 08 Dec 2014 20:01:59 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=16648#comment-92838 Gaz Regan, in his excellent book on the Negroni, says in his entry for the Lucien Gaudin that one of the owners of the Dead Rabbit in New York sent him a recipe for a drink called the Belfast Bastard, a variation of the LG that substitutes Combier Crème de Pamplemousse Rose liqueur for the Cointreau, increases the gin to 2 oz., and switches out the orange twist for (appropriately enough) a grapefruit twist. I’ve used Combier as a substitute for Cointreau in drinks calling for the latter, but I haven’t seen Crème de Pamplemousse. Are you familiar with it?

I wonder whether Charlie at the Cheval Pie in Paris knew Lucien Gaudin or just decided to honor his exploits by naming a cocktail after him. We’ll probably never know.

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By: Randi and Eric's Honeymoon https://cold-glass.com/2014/12/05/the-lucien-gaudin-cocktail/#comment-92837 Mon, 08 Dec 2014 19:52:41 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=16648#comment-92837 The Lucien Gaudin is not quite as flavorful as the Negroni, but it is lighter and more refreshing. I’m finding it to be particularly good after big heavy holiday meals. Thanks for another great post!

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By: Doug Ford https://cold-glass.com/2014/12/05/the-lucien-gaudin-cocktail/#comment-92771 Sun, 07 Dec 2014 22:39:06 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=16648#comment-92771 In reply to Pavel Yan. aka scomorokh.

Pavel, thank you, what a great find—and it clarifies some of the LG’s history. I will update the post shortly to include that information.

EUVS is a very interesting site—I hadn’t seen or heard of some of those books before, and I look forward to doing a little reading. (Cocktails de Paris will make my brain hurt, I haven’t done any extended reading in French for years.)

Thanks for taking time to share the link, and the history.

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By: Pavel Yan. aka scomorokh https://cold-glass.com/2014/12/05/the-lucien-gaudin-cocktail/#comment-92767 Sun, 07 Dec 2014 21:40:52 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=16648#comment-92767 It seems like a wonderful post 8) As a matter of fact, the first mention of the Lucien Gaudin appears to ‘Cocktails de Paris’ by R.I.P. (real name is Thenon, Georges Gabriel) (1929, France). Author notices that the cocktail was invented by a certain Charlie aka ” du Cheval Pie ” (or from ” du Cheval Pie “, it’s not so clearly). Besides, R.I.P. writes that the drink picked up the Honor Prize of Parisian Barmen Championship 1929. Therefore it must have been created in 1928-1929.

By the way, you can get acquainted with this charming old book on the EUVS site – http://www.euvs.org/en/collection/books .

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By: Doug Ford https://cold-glass.com/2014/12/05/the-lucien-gaudin-cocktail/#comment-92760 Sun, 07 Dec 2014 19:40:23 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=16648#comment-92760 In reply to Thalia @ butter and brioche.

If you’re a Campari drinker, Lucien Gaudin should go down very comfortably. Thanks for commenting!

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By: Thalia @ butter and brioche https://cold-glass.com/2014/12/05/the-lucien-gaudin-cocktail/#comment-92734 Sun, 07 Dec 2014 09:55:54 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=16648#comment-92734 Never heard of a cocktail quite like this before, but I do love my campari – so it definitely is a recipe I need to try out. Have a feeling it will be a big hit in the upcoming Christmas period too.

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By: Doug Ford https://cold-glass.com/2014/12/05/the-lucien-gaudin-cocktail/#comment-92665 Sat, 06 Dec 2014 04:13:18 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=16648#comment-92665 In reply to Matty.

I wish I’d thought of that…

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By: Matty https://cold-glass.com/2014/12/05/the-lucien-gaudin-cocktail/#comment-92655 Sat, 06 Dec 2014 03:42:12 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=16648#comment-92655 If ever that was a drink that deserved a sword pick through its garnish . . .

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By: Doug Ford https://cold-glass.com/2014/12/05/the-lucien-gaudin-cocktail/#comment-92641 Sat, 06 Dec 2014 00:30:35 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=16648#comment-92641 In reply to Al.

Thanks, I hope you enjoy it!

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By: Al https://cold-glass.com/2014/12/05/the-lucien-gaudin-cocktail/#comment-92638 Fri, 05 Dec 2014 23:55:31 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=16648#comment-92638 Negroni riffs are always welcome. and this appears a very worthy riff

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