Comments on: Building on the Old-Fashioned—The Improved Whiskey Cocktail https://cold-glass.com/2011/01/29/building-on-the-old-fashioned-the-improved-whiskey-cocktail/ You can make these cocktails. Start right now. Sun, 03 Jan 2016 22:38:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Doug Ford https://cold-glass.com/2011/01/29/building-on-the-old-fashioned-the-improved-whiskey-cocktail/#comment-106898 Sun, 03 Jan 2016 22:38:00 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=1990#comment-106898 In reply to Jacob Hooker.

Jacob, I’m delighted that you found this post, and a recipe that works well for your modifications. There’s something about the Old-Fashioned that lends it perfectly to modification and experimentation. I particularly like the idea of adding a dash of Peychaud’s; it sounds delicious, and I’m looking forward to trying it out, perhaps tonight. Thanks!

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By: Jacob Hooker https://cold-glass.com/2011/01/29/building-on-the-old-fashioned-the-improved-whiskey-cocktail/#comment-106779 Mon, 28 Dec 2015 22:44:13 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=1990#comment-106779 Spending the week before New Year’s Day making a different variant of the Old Fashioned, as a quiet homage to that which has gone before. So far I’ve done a few Old Fashioneds with various different whiskies (Eagle Rare 10 Year Select Barrel, Rittenhouse Rye 100, Old Weller 107, Buffalo Trace), and a few different brandies (St. Remy VSOP, Hine Rare VSOP, Courvoisier VSOP, Ferrand Ambre), and then a few more outrageous variants, like Brian Miller’s Conference Cocktail and Phil Ward’s agave-based rebuttal La Conferencia (obviously I have had friends over to share in this cocktailery, I’m not that hopeless an alcoholic). I was glancing through my various cocktail books for a new version today, and decided to have a look at your Old Fashioned section here, and I’m glad I did. Jerry Thomas really was the man, and this drink is intense and delicious. I did make some minor adjustments: I love anise, and so does my girlfriend, so we equalized the absinthe and maraschino at 1/6 tsp each (and it still threatened to be too sweet as it warmed), I went with the spicier Rittenhouse 100, and we substituted one of the dashes of Ango for Peychaud’s, reasoning that Peychaud’s loves rye and absinthe. It was delicious. Thank you for the inclusion on your website here; it is very likely I would not have found it otherwise.

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By: An Old-Fashioned the hard way: the Brandy Crusta | Cold Glass https://cold-glass.com/2011/01/29/building-on-the-old-fashioned-the-improved-whiskey-cocktail/#comment-95742 Sat, 31 Jan 2015 23:47:25 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=1990#comment-95742 […] liqueur. It wasn’t long before bartenders included a bit of Maraschino into their “improved cocktail” experiments, and by the end of the century, some were using it in place of curaçao in […]

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By: The Handsome Devil | Cold Glass https://cold-glass.com/2011/01/29/building-on-the-old-fashioned-the-improved-whiskey-cocktail/#comment-11744 Wed, 31 Jul 2013 23:56:00 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=1990#comment-11744 […] in the style of the Whiskey Old-Fashioned, and very much in the spirit of Jerry Thomas’s “Improved” Whiskey Cocktails. The bourbon dominates the drink, but there is a faint nutty nose from the Frangelico, the boost of […]

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By: Why is there cognac in my Sazerac? | Cold Glass https://cold-glass.com/2011/01/29/building-on-the-old-fashioned-the-improved-whiskey-cocktail/#comment-1969 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 00:34:21 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=1990#comment-1969 […] picked up an absinthe wash, and evolved to fit the pattern of what Jerry Thomas recorded as “improved” […]

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By: Building on the Old-Fashioned—The Improved Whiskey Cocktail | Cold Glass https://cold-glass.com/2011/01/29/building-on-the-old-fashioned-the-improved-whiskey-cocktail/#comment-1937 Mon, 16 Jan 2012 20:41:34 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=1990#comment-1937 […] on the Old-Fashioned—The Improved Whiskey Cocktail” at cold-glass.com : All text and photos © 2011 Douglas M. Ford. All rights reserved. Other ways to share Cold […]

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By: Doug Ford https://cold-glass.com/2011/01/29/building-on-the-old-fashioned-the-improved-whiskey-cocktail/#comment-166 Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:01:32 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=1990#comment-166 In reply to Brown Road Chronicles.

Wow…

I don’t know if I have the courage for this one—equal parts concentrate, whiskey, and beer, that’s a daunting flavor combination. Perhaps I’ll give it a try on some hot, sweltering summer afternoon. Perhaps.

This is a great story, very amusing, and I love the details. Thanks for following up.

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By: Brown Road Chronicles https://cold-glass.com/2011/01/29/building-on-the-old-fashioned-the-improved-whiskey-cocktail/#comment-164 Thu, 10 Feb 2011 01:48:31 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=1990#comment-164 In reply to Doug Ford.

Okay Doug, here’s the verdict. The unedited response from my Dad when I e-mailed and asked about a Polish Whiskey Sour is below:

Too funny. Haven’t had one in years. It was something we invented. It was made up of a can of frozen lemon or lime concentrate, the same amount of whiskey (your choice) and a can of beer (your choice). All mixed in a punch bowl. Very strong drink. Granny Warner loved them. Just one and she would dance around the living room with my cowboy hat on to the John Denver record. If I remember correctly we made them first in Dearborn Michigan when Larry Kutlarik(spelling) and his wife would come over. That’s where the Polish part came in as they were polish and I made up the story that it was a P/W/Sour. Enjoy the History. Love to you all DAD

So there you go… not something a bartender is going to know how to make, but maybe you can try it out at your bar at home! I plan on giving it a try. Maybe we can turn it into a famous cocktail!!

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By: Posky https://cold-glass.com/2011/01/29/building-on-the-old-fashioned-the-improved-whiskey-cocktail/#comment-162 Mon, 07 Feb 2011 23:31:35 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=1990#comment-162 I tried it and it was a win. I still enjoy the regular “simple” Old Fashioned just as well, I might as well try the improved and add in the absinthe and syrup whenever I have it. It definitely makes for a sweeter and more complex drink than what I’ve familiarized myself with in the past

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By: FinallyFast https://cold-glass.com/2011/01/29/building-on-the-old-fashioned-the-improved-whiskey-cocktail/#comment-161 Mon, 07 Feb 2011 19:48:24 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=1990#comment-161 My one friend from TX is forever talking about OLD Fashioned. I’ll have to give the above a try and see what he thinks…

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By: Doug Ford https://cold-glass.com/2011/01/29/building-on-the-old-fashioned-the-improved-whiskey-cocktail/#comment-160 Mon, 07 Feb 2011 16:20:16 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=1990#comment-160 In reply to SpinnyLiberal.

Thanks. And I think there are a lot of people who will agree with you about the Sidecar, what a gorgeous drink that is.

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By: info https://cold-glass.com/2011/01/29/building-on-the-old-fashioned-the-improved-whiskey-cocktail/#comment-158 Mon, 07 Feb 2011 15:32:47 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=1990#comment-158 thanks!!! Very nice!

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By: Brooke https://cold-glass.com/2011/01/29/building-on-the-old-fashioned-the-improved-whiskey-cocktail/#comment-156 Mon, 07 Feb 2011 15:04:05 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=1990#comment-156 The Old Fashion is by far my favorite bourbon drink. I remember at a wedding, the bartender made one with brandy… I couldn’t stomach it. Bourbon for the win. :)

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By: Bill Tucker https://cold-glass.com/2011/01/29/building-on-the-old-fashioned-the-improved-whiskey-cocktail/#comment-154 Mon, 07 Feb 2011 13:23:02 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=1990#comment-154 For my wife and me, an old fashion marks the beginning of the holiday season. We have always made the “muddled fruit” version: a really good bourbon, sweet Florida Parson Brown oranges and maraschino cherries. However, the recipes in your blog or intriguing and certainly will complement a good bourbon. Thanks for a well written piece.

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By: Cristian Gidinceanu https://cold-glass.com/2011/01/29/building-on-the-old-fashioned-the-improved-whiskey-cocktail/#comment-153 Mon, 07 Feb 2011 09:17:38 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=1990#comment-153 now this is one article that you need to read it first thing on monday :), especially after a party weekend.

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By: jule1 https://cold-glass.com/2011/01/29/building-on-the-old-fashioned-the-improved-whiskey-cocktail/#comment-152 Mon, 07 Feb 2011 06:00:12 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=1990#comment-152 In reply to Doug Ford.

I may try both, see how they taste. Also, I saw another post that talked about muddled fruit (and your reply), and as my palate favors sweeter drinks, I may try that as well.

Thanks for your replies and advice. You sure seem to know your booze!

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By: SpinnyLiberal https://cold-glass.com/2011/01/29/building-on-the-old-fashioned-the-improved-whiskey-cocktail/#comment-151 Mon, 07 Feb 2011 05:19:49 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=1990#comment-151 Great site. I saw you have the best cocktail in the entire universe on your site – The Sidecar. You have great pictures and recipes. I’m craving one now. Congrats on being FP! :-)

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By: Jennifer S. https://cold-glass.com/2011/01/29/building-on-the-old-fashioned-the-improved-whiskey-cocktail/#comment-150 Mon, 07 Feb 2011 01:41:32 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=1990#comment-150 In reply to Doug Ford.

ha … gotta love that miniature cheesehead hat on the bottles of Cheesehead Wine. It’s a very sweet white table wine … and the color .. dare I say it…. cheesey yellow?! Thanks Doug!

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By: Ron Scubadiver https://cold-glass.com/2011/01/29/building-on-the-old-fashioned-the-improved-whiskey-cocktail/#comment-149 Sun, 06 Feb 2011 23:19:18 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=1990#comment-149 Darn, I am fresh out of Absinthe. Stop by my photo blog!

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By: barfliesanon https://cold-glass.com/2011/01/29/building-on-the-old-fashioned-the-improved-whiskey-cocktail/#comment-148 Sun, 06 Feb 2011 23:12:36 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=1990#comment-148 Yum!
These barflies will have to have their favorite bartender make them one…or two…I can imagine the poem now…Ode to the Wiskey Cocktail….or something like that.

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By: Doug Ford https://cold-glass.com/2011/01/29/building-on-the-old-fashioned-the-improved-whiskey-cocktail/#comment-146 Sun, 06 Feb 2011 21:35:20 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=1990#comment-146 In reply to Jim Krouskop.

Yeah, there’s something good about a simple drink in a heavy rocks glass. One big piece of ice. Life is good.

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By: Doug Ford https://cold-glass.com/2011/01/29/building-on-the-old-fashioned-the-improved-whiskey-cocktail/#comment-145 Sun, 06 Feb 2011 21:30:16 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=1990#comment-145 In reply to jule1.

My favorite thing about the “original” recipe for the Old-Fashioned is that you could make the drink with any spirit you pleased—it didn’t have to be whiskey, it could be gin, brandy, even wine. And Jerry Thomas’s “Improved Whiskey Cocktail” is modeled directly on his recipe for the “Improved Brandy Cocktail,” so I’d say the field is wide open for using just about any whiskey that pleases you. Historically, the commonly available whiskies would have been rye and bourbon; the Canadians would have had, well, Canadian. There is absolutely no reason that Scotch wouldn’t work in this drink—all that matters is that you like the flavor. So you are exactly right with your instinct that both could be used; you have two distinctly different whiskies there, and a great opportunity to try them both and see if you prefer one over the other.

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By: albeindc https://cold-glass.com/2011/01/29/building-on-the-old-fashioned-the-improved-whiskey-cocktail/#comment-144 Sun, 06 Feb 2011 20:42:32 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=1990#comment-144 great idea for a whiskey cocktail. i’ve only done on the rocks or straight really, so this sounds like a great introduction to some whiskey variations!

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By: Jim Krouskop https://cold-glass.com/2011/01/29/building-on-the-old-fashioned-the-improved-whiskey-cocktail/#comment-143 Sun, 06 Feb 2011 19:51:20 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=1990#comment-143 Doug, excellent blog and post. The Old Fashioned has become one of my favorites recently. I’m traditionally a vodka & tonic guy (with a lime), but have been on an old-school kick lately. I appreciate the simplicity of cocktails from days gone by and am sometimes put off by the trend of unconventional drinks poured into a V-stem and automatically annointing it an “X” martini.

I think the key with the Old Fashioned, or Improved Whiskey Cocktail, is some good bitters and keeping it simple. Make mine on the rocks with a nice and weighty low-ball glass. Perfect.

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By: jule1 https://cold-glass.com/2011/01/29/building-on-the-old-fashioned-the-improved-whiskey-cocktail/#comment-141 Sun, 06 Feb 2011 05:21:31 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=1990#comment-141 In reply to Doug Ford.

Really the best blue cheeses are French, imo. I’ve tried other countries, but keep going back to the French blue cheeses. I usually buy the high end stuff at Whole Foods. If I’m cooking with it, I just buy the cheap stuff at the grocery store, have no idea where it comes from. I’d think in a martini, since the bleu cheese is adding such a big flavor hit, you’d want the high end stuff!

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By: jule1 https://cold-glass.com/2011/01/29/building-on-the-old-fashioned-the-improved-whiskey-cocktail/#comment-140 Sun, 06 Feb 2011 05:19:04 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=1990#comment-140 In reply to Doug Ford.

Thanks. I sure would have used Maraschino cherry juice if you had not steered me in the right direction! I’m not a huge drinker, have had bottles of booze around for years. I currently have an unopened bottle of Macallan 12 Single Malt Whiskey — will that work for the whiskey part of this drink? I also have some Jim Beam bourbon whiskey left — is that better? Or could the both be used?

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By: melanie merle root https://cold-glass.com/2011/01/29/building-on-the-old-fashioned-the-improved-whiskey-cocktail/#comment-138 Sun, 06 Feb 2011 00:02:28 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=1990#comment-138 delightful and de-lovely :) thanks for posting

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By: notesfromrumbleycottage https://cold-glass.com/2011/01/29/building-on-the-old-fashioned-the-improved-whiskey-cocktail/#comment-137 Sat, 05 Feb 2011 23:56:25 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=1990#comment-137 In reply to Doug Ford.

I once asked for a whiskey stone sour and had to tell the bartender how to make it. I know that is not like asking for a “slow comfortable screw up against the wall” but, really, you do not know a three-ingredient drink? Great post and congrats on being featured.

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By: Doug Ford https://cold-glass.com/2011/01/29/building-on-the-old-fashioned-the-improved-whiskey-cocktail/#comment-136 Sat, 05 Feb 2011 23:39:18 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=1990#comment-136 In reply to jaredblakedicroce.

That would be very cool, though if everybody teleported their straws at once, I’d have no drink left.

I have the same fascination, wondering where these drinks came from. And history is a long study. As Chaucer said, “the life so short, the craft so long to learn…”

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By: Doug Ford https://cold-glass.com/2011/01/29/building-on-the-old-fashioned-the-improved-whiskey-cocktail/#comment-135 Sat, 05 Feb 2011 23:34:04 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=1990#comment-135 In reply to Jamie Insalaco.

Yeah, that’s sad. Go figger…

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